No morality without God

The question is what is the basis of morality? For the Christian the basis of morality is God and what He deems to be just. However, for those who do not believe in God the basis of morality would be something other than the Bible. Some teach that morality can be based on the greater good. In other words what is good is good for the whole of humanity not just part. The essential problems of such ideology is that this does not tell us what good is or what evil is. Like pragmatism, the greater good is that which can be anything. For instance, what if killing one million people helped solve world hunger? This evil would essentially be good because it would help solve an evil. The problem is obvious evil is used to alleviate another evil. This is why anyone who wants to live without the Bible alone cannot justify any action. Either they will say morality is based on the greater good or they will say morality is based on what man feels is good. Both concepts do not present to us any clear definition of what is evil or what is good.

"As the Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoyevsky made clear, 'If there is no God, everything is permitted.' When a group of people adopt a worldview that has no place for a personal and moral God, we should not be surprised to find that the notions of good and evil lose their power. While atheists may acknowledge moral principles, they cannot provide good reasons for them." - Ronald H. Nash, The Meaning of History, pg. 127

Has anyone seen God face to face?

Read Exodus 33 today, lets face it the skeptic/atheist, who does not wish for God to come near in truth, hates the word of God with such blatant passion that they are equally set against it and wants to destroy the consistent nature of Verbal Revelation. They use attacks such as Paradoxes, which Van Til so uses in his false presuppositions, to deny and cause doubt of the word of God. But, what is the meaning of these verses and how does one iron out the details to eliminate the charley horse?


11. And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face Moses will hereafter be dignified by this distinction, where God would declare the difference between him and other Prophets. (Numbers 12:8.) Familiar intercourse is therefore described in this phrase, as if it were said that God appeared to Moses by an extraordinary mode of revelation. If any object that there is a contradiction between this statement and what we shall presently see, "Thou canst not see my face," the solution is easy, viz., that although God revealed Himself to Moses in a peculiar manner, still He never appeared in the fullness of His glory, but only so far as man's infirmity could endure. For this expression contains an implied comparison, i.e., that no man was ever equal to Moses, or arrived at such a pitch of dignity. And this tends to magnify the Law, that Moses its minister reported what he had familiafly learnt, so that no ambiguity might be suspected. When it is said that Joshua departed not from the tabernacle, we gather that the dwelling-place of Moses was in the camp; and perhaps the fact of his being a young man is mentioned, [365] in order more highly to illustrate God's grace, in choosing that he should have the charge of the sanctuary. It is true that Joshua at this time was of mature age; but God's special blessing was manifested in him, in that God passed over many old men, and set him who was younger to be the keeper of His tabernacle. - John Calvin, Commentary on Exodus